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I really appreciate the second activist’s attention to PPE. Sabotaging a military industrial site is dangerous work, no need to make it more so.
Comrades… I hope if any of you decide to do this, if you’re going to record it… At least cover up your faces.
Clean room
A prerequisite for a clean room is a roof
Now this is direct action 🫡
Kinda weird that the “clean room” seems to have a zinc-sheet roof? Shouldn’t it be a bit better hardened?
Most of the military manufacturing infrastructure is not protected against external attacks. Only stuff that goes directly to the front lines is armored.
The first time that throwing paint on something really did something about the situation.
Man the difference in perception between stunts done by virtue activists, and actual actionable activism is wild.
Throwing paint on historical artifacts to make a point ☹️. Throwing paint in clean rooms to change the situation 😄.
Throwing paint on historical artifacts to make a point ☹️. Throwing paint in clean rooms to change the situation 😄.
I still don’t really get people who defend defacing artifacts as it doesn’t really prove a point or make anyone join their side. But on the other hand throwing paint in clean rooms is golden as it actually does something 😁
I don’t understand how you can value art more than life. Those are just things and usually they aren’t harmed because they’re behind glass as intended. How any multi million dollar art piece isn’t behind glass is beyond me.
It’s not even valuing art more then life. It’s more like “yeah, but why?” Like go throw paint on a BP execs car or something. That’ll make headlines too if done right.
Do you legitimately think anyone but that bp exec will give a shit? No right? So it’s ineffectual, you’re essentially saying you rather protests be so wildly ineffectual that you never have to hear about it. That’s valuing art over life, they aren’t protesting for the standard color of buttons on men’s trousers they’re protesting for the survival of the human race.
And them vandalizing art is pretty ineffectual too. I’m all for them doing effective protesting. But I’d argue with the throwing of soup on art they’re making themselves a joke. If throwing some soup on the mona Lisa and chopping the head off famous sculptures or putting a hole in the ceiling of the sistine chapel actually did save lives then I’d be all for it. But it doesn’t. Go shut down parliament, chain yourself across a bridge, throw soup on a pro oil politician. Ground Taylor Swift’s private jet making her miss a concert date. Go ham.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about me too. You need chill the fuck out throwing around your accusations. There’s a lot of inaccurate shit I can say about you too.
I’m just in favor of throwing paint at things!
And my shoe.
What did they actually do? I see they threw paint, but was it in the can and then it collapsed the roof? Did they cut the roof away? I’m not sure of the logistics here.
They sprayed paint into the clean room, contaminating tools and equipment that are required to make materials and components that require zero contamination. They will likely have to replace alot of specialized equipment, and that can take a ridiculous amount of time.
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They might have thought they contaminated a clean room, but that certainly did not seem to be constructed like one. Teledyne makes a lot of electronic parts for a lot of different airframes in a lot of locations… It’s unlikely this vandalism did anything substantial.
Looks like a concrete floor there, which would generate dust, therefore this just can’t be a clean room by definition. If so they’ll probably just have to clean up the paint and maybe replace a few things and get on with it.
The second action in the video, looks like putting expanding foam into the air filtration system, is much, much more damaging. That’s building infrastructure that will have to be torn out and rebuilt, which will shut down production for ages. A lot of people are going to be a lot of angry about this, and these two on camera are going to be hunted down and prosecuted.
I don’t think shutting down production of warplanes that are already in service will do much to be honest. It won’t slow momentum of Israel’s genocide one iota. You could devastate the population of Gaza with WWII era planes, since they’re basically at this point just starving to death without electricity. So no need for F35s. I get that it’s a strong form of direct action but the actual effect it will have is minimal, and balanced with the risk to the protesters, it’s pretty low on the reward/risk scale.
I think these two are morally in the right, but need to think more about how they can be effective.
They’re only gonna slaughter another 500k in retaliation. Was it worth that?
Wtf are you taking about? As this rate that would take ten years.
